Behind the curtain, the 4th wall; beyond the distinction between guest and host — today, carla and Eleanor sit down with each other to dig into everything from pop culture embarrassments to melancholic hope and book recs.
A perfectly radical way to wrap up the year in a nice bow, and drop kick our presence into the new year.
Learn more about your hosts, carla bergman and Eleanor Goldfield.
carla bergman and Eleanor Goldfield interview long term organizers about their watershed moments, what they have learned along the way, and how they maintain their hope on this path; dreaming and building emergent worlds for a present and future that is anchored in justice and freedom for all.